Comments on: Who Deprecated My Servlets?

By: Ian Lim

Ian Lim — Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:40:12 +0000

Seems like there is movement to a simpler approach to things

When things come to a certain level of complexity, there is a reversal trend towards simplicity…

By: Rob Kischuk

Rob Kischuk — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:00:59 +0000

Also, don’t get me wrong, I’m not opposed to new ways of doing things, new frameworks, etc. EJB3, JDO, Hibernate, Spring, etc. are examples of the J2EE industry refactoring itself. Naturally, new technology will replace old, as we (hopefully) learn from our past mistakes.

As much as Spring and other lightweight frameworks make doing the same things simpler, all we’re really saying is that the solution to our problems with frameworks is itself a framework. Though IoC/Dependency Injection streamlines much of what we’re accustomed to doing in frameworks, eventually the lightweight containers will find other ways to be heavyweight and crufty, and be discarded in favor of something new.

By: Jason Carreira

Jason Carreira — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:46:33 +0000

Interesting… except that Spring and other lightweight containers can give you 90% of what EJB give you (actually, it’s 100% of what you need from EJB in 95% of the cases) with about 20% of the overhead. I think this is a good tradeoff, and doesn’t fit into your gear analogy nearly as well as it fits into Bruce’s analogy.

By: anonymous to you

anonymous to you — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:43:45 +0000

In all the time I’ve been reading Jroller blogs, I’ve never seen a statement as sane as this one.